Wednesday, September 26, 2012

A few things I have been reading....

My laptop is still packed up, and my phone does not do a good job of a lot of blogger functions, so if any of the links don't work, please let me know. (The embedded links are all working now!)

Over the last few days, I have really enjoyed my time with Scott, and we were able to have a few days of truly being together. That doesn't mean that we didn't have disruptions, major disruptions. So, while Scott dealt with customer issues, I poked around. I am not sure how many blogs I will be adding to my blog roll, or if I need to find a way to split up my blog roll, but until I decide, I am going to wait to do more My New Favorite Blogs posts. So, these are simply things I read, that struck a cord.

Does this sound interesting? Go here to Keepa to read the rest

"Two circumstances make this particular baptismal service highly unusual. First, the location was a lake near Vladivostok, Siberia. Second, the men listed here were all members of the “Red Triangle Club,” the informal name for LDS members of the Allied Expeditionary Force, Siberia. Branch President Zwahlen was also Pfc. Samuel Zwahlen, Co. D, 31st. Infantry, drafted in 1918 from Ferron, Emery County, Utah. And Bro. Husberg, the newly baptized member, was Pfc. Andrew Husberg, born in Sweden, brought to the US with his family, and drafted from his new home near Reno Nevada."

For a different view on Mormon beliefs, from a believing homosexual man, who still attends church, try out this interesting blog. I think you might be pleasantly surprised at the love and testimony of this brother.   

 "No matter how Mormon I still feel I am and no matter how many tenets of the LDS Church I still hold on to, the fact is, I am not a member of the church; Iam an outsider, and that has caused me to view the religion I grew up in and the members of that faith differently than I did when I was one of them.

This is not a bad thing.  In fact, in many ways, it is a very good thing.  It just is.  And like the quote says, I actually feel I am getting more of a perspective on Mormonism (and especially Utah Mormonism) because I am away from it."

For several interesting perspectives on gender rolls and church doctrine, I loved not just this post, but all of the comments. Certainly there are women who explain there thinking about the priesthood, but the OP and more than half of the comments are from men.

Two favorite comments (and you really should read them all):

Larryco - 

“Ordaining women would not just expand the LDS priesthood club, it would change the tenor of the whole enterprise.”
It’s interesting to read in the minutes from the first few Relief Society meetings (as recorded in The Words of Joseph Smith) how many times the word “ordain” is used by Joseph Smith when he is addressing the sisters. He says that their presidency should be ordained, he has John Taylor ordain Emma’s counselors, and he speaks of ordaining additional officers. He also encourages them to lay hands on the sick and give blessings. It’s even quoted that he calls on the sisters to “be a select society…(and) said he was going to make of this society a kingdom of priests as in Enoch’s day” (p. 110). This is even prior to the authority given to women in connection to temple ordinances."

"I believe that women have been shortchanged in current church practice and teaching. I believe that an examination of a “Mother in heaven” concept would be a healthy activity in doctrinal classes and discussions. I believe that there is a possibility that women should be able to participate in priesthood ordinances and blessings jointly with their husbands. I feel that a married couple should be the ideal (sorry singles).

But I completely disagree with the idea that women should receive the priesthood and that all differences in practice and training should be extinguished. For the Latter-day Saints, gender differences are eternal. Men have roles and expectations that differ from women’s. Priesthood should prepare men, through service and other activities, for their station in the eternities. The endowment itself reveals that gender differences will exist in the hereafter, and our liberal, egalitarian hearts are just going to have to cope with that. The Church should institute practices that ensure that women are prepared as well. But I do NOT believe that this preparation should be identical to that of a man.
For this reason (the respect for eternal difference when it comes to gender), I think we should have a dialogue on the social and eternal consequences of the ordination of women. But I think the discussion should be focused on the purpose of authority structures and institutions (like the Relief Society) within the Church."


  1. I love how open you are to reading different perspectives. :) I'm also glad you got to spend some quality time with Scott.

  2. That PMG! It would be pretty boring to just read people I agree with. I am pretty committed to reading different perspectives, as long as they are well written, and don't use offensive language. (An occasional swear word isn't a problem, but an inability to express ideals without being vulgar is important if people want to share ideas.)

    I find a lot of good friends by readings that thoughts of people who are fundamentally different than me.

  3. I am always amazed at who you find, and what you are willing to share. Any time that I want to pigeon hole all Mormons, stopping by your blog reminds me that not everyone is stupid, bigotted and blind.

    I wish that your blog had a bigger voice! It is one that the church ,a nd the rest of the world needs to hear.

  4. Thanks Former Saint. I am still very curious about who you are. :-)

    Feel free to email me anytime. findingmywaysoftly

  5. Is everything you read interesting like this? How many things do read read that aren't?



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